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INDIA BORN PIANIST REVIVES CANADIAN ICON
Original Interview - Toronto Edition of INDIA ABROAD MAGAZINE
India-born pianist Karishmeh Felfeli, lives in Ireland. She teaches music and performs across the globe. She's also promoter of an organisation called Sarabande, which promotes the music of Canadian classical pianist extraordinaire Glenn Gould.
Felfeli, who is being hailed as the woman who is turning a new generation of listeners onto Gould's music, spoke to Rediff India Abroad's Ajit Jain.
What made you take up the piano?
After listening to a recording by Canadian pianist Glenn Gould, my whole brain and being was seized! So, I decided to become a pianist.
Tell us about your musical background.
I come from a non-musical family. I started lessons at the age of 4 with an Australian missionary, Enid Roberts, who had set up a small school in Pune. Even as a child I loved music. I didn't have a piano. I would go to Miss Roberts's house at 5 am before school just to practice. I was only 8 years old. I have always loved sharing music with people, with an audience, and telling them about the pieces I was playing. It was the most natural thing in the world for me to have a life in music, but I've had to work very, very hard for it. Listening to Glenn Gould's recordings simply gave me the extra push I needed.
Why did you leave India for good and what did Glenn Gould have to do with that decision?
I received a music scholarship to study in America, so upon graduating from school aged 16, I worked in a school teaching music for 2 years, to save the money for the flight to America and went there. It was after listening to a recording by Glenn Gould that I actually felt the desire to pursue music for a living, not just as a hobby – my whole brain and being was seized!!
Do you believe you are able to share your music with people so much more by living outside India than had you continued to reside in India/in Pune?
I believe that I was able to reach a much more advanced stage of performance, technically and musically by studying with teachers outside India. My own teachers in Pune felt that they had taught me all they knew. However, I feel the love of music that was instilled in me when I was in Pune was something nobody could share with me outside of India where it is more about ego, fame and money than the music itself.
What was it about Glenn Gould that you particularly admired as a teenager, and how did this lead you to your present occupation? There is no way to answer this question in a few words. When I first heard of Gould, I didn't have access to any information about his life. There was no internet, and the local libraries didn't have any books about him. It was a slow, slow process but as I started learning about his ideas on music, performance, education, I felt that they were exactly the same ideas that I had - with a few exceptions, I love The Beatles, for instance! When I experienced life in a music conservatory full time, I realised that Gould was right about the pointlessness of having to study in an institution, when one wants to become a good performer, a good all round musician. A great teacher is important, not doing an end of year examination, or being marked on essays. Music is about performance, and you learn more working with inspired teachers and reading/collaborating with good musicians than you learn working with a mediocre teacher that is assigned to you in a music college. Gould didn't go to Juilliard, for instance, nor did he care about winning international competitions. I also agreed with Gould's thoughts about the classical concert as being a very one dimensional experience, and the fact that there was no originality or creativity involved. I disagree with him that live performances are a thing of the past, I think the very same things that make him dislike live performances are the reasons why I do what I do - don't play the same hackneyed repertoire the same way so that people can judge you. Do something new, different, mix up the classical and popular genres, surprise your audience, and don't care about the critics or anyone else. And Gould loved animals - he was a humanitarian at heart. So there are a lot of his ideas that I felt a sort of affinity to, fairly early on.
Apart from Glenn Gould, did you have any musical idols or mentors, and if so who and why?
When I was a teenager, I didn’t really have any mentors, even though my piano & singing teachers were my driving force. However, there are many people I have admired, in particular one of my English piano professors – Philip Fowke who really instilled in me a great sense of discipline for Bach’s music. There are plenty of people I have admired all my life – apart from Glenn Gould, it would have to be Leonard Bernstein, pianist Leon Fleisher, American Composer Charles Ives, and Indian composer A.R.Rahman.
You say you don't agree with institutionalized music conservatoires as being the be all and end all for musicians. However, the best teachers in the world are often found on faculties of these colleges. So how can a young student who wants to have a career in performance do so without going down that route?
Well, to answer that I first need to say that I simply don't think a career as a classical performer or opera singer is the be all and end all of music. Take even someone like Gould - he was miserable as a concert pianist, and happiest when he was combining playing the piano with other things. Of course music conservatoires particularly in America, France, Austria, Germany, England have some incredible musicians on their faculty - Fleisher, for instance has taught in Peabody conservatory, and the pianist Gary Graffman teaches at Curtis. What I mean is that I simply don't think that being a student at a music conservatoire is all that it is cut out to be. I don't agree with having end of semester recitals and exams, or the ridiculous pressure that students have for performing in competitions. I don't agree with the mass recruitment of students from the Far East, simply because they have the technical mechanism required to reach a high level of performance. In conservatoires, most of the time students are assigned teachers - they have no choice but to stick with the same teacher irrespective of whether that teacher is best for them technically and musically. Conservatoires are also a breeding ground for self loathing, ego and all the ugly things that go with being a musician. I just think that a young student has a greater chance of attaining technical and musical perfection if they study with a good teacher, as supposed to studying in a good college. I made far more progress as a musician in two lessons with an incredible teacher, than I did in the few years at a music conservatoire. And the fact of the matter is that you can do all the practice you want on end of year recitals, but if you don't go out there and perform, you're simply going to be just one other mediocre music student, and there'll always be someone better, younger, more experienced than you who can nail a live performance.
Glenn Gould was very particular about composers and music that he played. Do you share the same ideas with piano music? You also have a background in vocal music, so what are your thoughts on the subject?
Gould was very opinionated and not afraid to dismiss composers based on his own opinions and ideas. I am quite the opposite - I love a lot of composers, a lot of musical genres. I always say that I play the music of J.S. Bach and The Beatles everyday - so that is pretty constant. However, I absolutely love French music (which Gould really disliked) - Debussy, Ravel, Satie. I do prefer Mozart and Haydn to Beethoven, and I am not as obsessed with the second Viennese school as Gould was. I also love folk, pop, world music so I suppose that is not consistant with Gould's opinions. As for vocal music - yes, I did study classical voice, but while I love baroque opera and the art song as a genre, I realized fairly early on that I really disliked the classical vocal style of singing. I realize that that is a very strong opinion on a vocal technique that goes back centuries, but I just can't stand the high pitched screeching. I'd love to hear what opera singers sound like if they just sing a song straight - none of the wide mouthed warbling. The greatest singing voices to me have always been ones of great clarity and natural beauty - John Lennon, Paul McCartney Freddie Mercury, Aretha Franklin, John Fogerty, Ray Davies, Asha Bhonsle, Art Garfunkel but my favourite voice of all has to be that of Judy Garland. I'd give anything to hear her take on Schubert lieder or Duparc songs. That is why I adore the vocal music of composers before Claudio Monteverdi....the lute song, madrigals - music that is sung in the most natural, unaffected manner.
Tell me something about Sarabande-The Glenn Gould Project, and is there any connection to The Glenn Gould Foundation?
I'm going to answer those questions in reverse order. First of all, while I know the work the Glenn Gould Foundation does fairly well, and I think everyone who is at the Estate and Foundation are doing a brilliant, brilliant job, I have no actual connection to either the Foundation or the Estate of Glenn Gould (that handles Gould's royalties). Nor do I work for either the Foundation or the Estate!! My idea to form a sort of performance/education society that also benefits charities that are close to me started with a few very simple concerts some years ago, for my own students. Gradually the idea to create even more mainstream performance opportunities for other musicians and to bring the ideas of Gould to the younger generation started happening. The idea that a music concert can be a laid back, enjoyable experience, where talented able musicians can perform to a public audience, and the proceeds can benefit animal rescue charities, children's charities is the reason why Sarabande-The Glenn Gould Project exists. You talk about charities, but how do you raise funds for these charities and why do you think there is such a need for creating more awareness, isn't it simpler to simply have a fundraiser dinner or recital for instance?I always think that people in Europe, particularly those involved in western classical music are fairly well off. I have always felt there has to be more to music than simply performing it, receiving applause, standing ovations and using the money to buy a nice house and do the same thing for the rest of your life. Look around you – the world is a pretty messed up place right now. There are people (including my parents) who have to make do without electricity 24/7, who live very differently to how we live in the west. When I was a young girl, I used to help out at the School for Orphan Blind girls in Pune and had also visited the Helen Keller Institute for Deaf Blind in Bombay – I was determined that if I ever got successful as a musician, I would do my best to help these people. Even profit of 200 euros from a concert is a tremendous amount when you convert it to ruppees. Its enough to buy a vehicle to transport the kids for days out, or buy Braille books and materials for them. The possibilities are endless. These are people – children – who need help. They don’t have big fundraiser events, or black tie dinners – the volunteers work tirelessly for these kids and receive nothing. It’s the same with animals – Glenn Gould loved animals, he even said he loved animals more than people!! He also donated half his estate to the Toronto Humane Society for Animals. The problem with today’s world is that we are greedy – greedy for more money, for more fame, for more success. I don’t really care about all that as long as I have a roof over my head and food to eat and am able to make music, so I give what I can. Its not complicated!!
And you are also involved in radio broadcasting now. Is this something you see yourself going into full time? Glenn Gould also loved the radio as a medium, do you share his enthusiasm for it?Absolutely. However, I do agree that the radio can never be a replacement for live performance. I'm a geek at heart, and I love the idea of talking about music I love - does that sound confusing? I really can't stand this mediocre, mindless radio that seems to be everywhere these days. If its not inane chat shows, its music that is played where the presenter simply announces the name of the piece and nothing else. For me the radio is just another way I can educate people, or share my own thoughts on a piece of music. I love television and film as well - but when it comes to music, the radio is my favourite medium. I don't believe in getting other people to research a program that one is presenting, or the whole "having to play certain music on the air" nonsense. Which is why I love the fact that I broadcast from an independent radio station - the internet has made a lot of things possible as well, as anyone, anywhere in the world can tune into the program.
And finally, many people wonder as to how at such a young age, you have acquried such an enormous recognition particularly here in North America. How do you explain this?
Well, for a start I'm not that young! We live in a very different world now, where Internet, media and press mean anyone can acquire recognition if they want to. This is my problem with society, that there is no need for true greatness to emerge, that mediocrity can also acquire enough recognition. Bach and Mozart were not recognized in their lifetime – Mozart was buried in an unmarked grave….to this day we don’t know where he was buried. I don’t care for recognition much, and while its nice being appreciated, and for my work is very well known especially here in Canada, I have had to work so ridiculously hard every single day, that I feel the rewards are far greater. I also think maybe what I do is different – I didn’t go to Juilliard (the famous music college in New York) to train as a concert pianist, I didn’t have very wealthy parents who made it all easy for me, I didn’t even have a piano to practice on till I was 15, so I’ve had more of a colourful life story. There is no shortage of incredible concert pianists who can play all the difficult piano repertoire – who cares? I’d rather be remembered for creating new things, for challenging ideas and inspiring people and raising awareness about other things, charities, people that need our help.